By the end of the classic B-movie The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) Klaatu, the offworld emmissary sent by a federation of planets to our world, delivers a chilling ultimatum before a group of scientists and heads of State: either the people of Earth mature beyond their violent tribal behavior before we attempt to venture forth into outer space, or the more advanced civilizations would be forced to annihilate us, lest we become a bigger risk to the stability of the Universe.

But how to achieve such an utopic goal? Klaatu then proceeds to explain how he and his people learned to live in harmony with one another: they willingly submitted themselves to the authority of robotic enforcers such as Gort (the giant aluminum golem escorting him) programmed to detect and eliminate any sign of aggression with cold, dispassionate efficiency. “Our system is not perfect,” Klaatu concedes—”but it works.”

Klaatu’s tone sounds almost angry during this climatic moment, but the audience can easily excuse him for it—after all, he literally died (and was momentarily resurrected) for no reason other than delivering his message to the immature Earthmen: grow up or face extermination.

Every time I watch an interview with Dr. Garry Nolan, Stanford professor, scientist and entrepreneur, I notice more and more of a similar anger and bitterness. It’s not like Nolan has been physically harmed by his enemies—though I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s ever received the occasional death threat on the Internet, where he keeps an active presence—but like Klaatu he’s been constantly attacked by both peers and laymen for delivering a message many don’t want to hear: The UFO phenomenon is a mystery that merits serious scientific scrutiny.

The role of science is to be wrong today, and righter tomorrow. - Garry Nolan

Nolan’s scientific achievements and reputation speak for themselves. He’s been registering patents and founding companies since he was just a grad student; he hangs around with Nobel laureates, and he’s been nominated to the esteemed prize himself; hence he does not suffers fools gladly—his go-to response when skeptics (whom he calls ‘pseudo-skeptics’) say things like ‘show me the evidence for UFOs’ is a pithy ‘I’m not your daddy… go find it yourself.’ It would appear one of the biggest motivators to devote so much time and energy into a subject his colleagues consider a waste of time, is just so he can prove them wrong.

Garry Nolan (caricature)

Hence the bitterness…

Last week Nolan was recently invited to The Joe Rogan Experience podcast, following on the footsteps of other illustrious UFO researchers who’ve been previous guests on the show—like his friend and mentor Jacques Vallée—and other not-so-illustrious personalities in the field—like Dr. Steven Greer; the one initially responsible for turning Nolan into a UFO celebrity back in 2010, when he first showed interest in conducting proper scientific testing on Ata (the name given to a strange and diminutive mummy found in the burning sands of the Atacama desert in Chile, that Greer bombastically promoted as the remains of a non-human entity). Nolan and Greer’s partnership had an ill end, once Nolan published his final conclusions: Ata showed signs of peculiar genetic mutations, but she was just an aborted human child—evidence of human cruelty, not alien visitation.

Caricature of Steven Greer, inspired by Vallée’s Forbidden Science Vol. 6

During the almost-three-hour interview with Joe, Garry didn’t even bother to mention Greer’s name once.

Other names who were also omitted in the long conversation with Joe were those of Diana Walsh Pasulka (who has also been in Rogan’s podcast) and Jaime Maussan. In 2019, Pasulka published American Cosmic, in which she detailed her visit to an undisclosed location in New Mexico in the company of Nolan (who was at the time referred to under the pseudonym ‘James’) and ‘Tyler D.’, an aerospatial engineer and biomedical entrepreneur (now identified as Tim Taylor) who took them in search of traces of a purported UFO crash. As detailed in Vallée’s journal Forbidden Science vol. 6, the study of those material samples gave reason to suspect there were not exotic in nature, and might have been deliberately planted.

As for Maussan, the shady Mexican ringleader apparently invited Nolan to analyze the ‘tri-dactyl’ Peruvian mummies he’s been avidly promoting for the last couple of years. Garry refused, not because he is necessarily skeptic of the authenticity of the mummies—he told Rogan he remains cautiously open-minded about the bigger ones (the tiny ones he knows they were never alive, but wonders if they were part of some ritual to ‘honor the gods’) given the tests already conducted—but because he refused to have a TV crew following his every move to make a spectacle out of the whole thing. Unlike others, Garry doesn’t seem interested at all in jumping into the UFO showbiz.

So what is Nolan interested in, then? By what he said to Joe, the answer is changing the current paradigm of total secrecy maintained around the supposed retrieval of crashed UFO materials, erected in the service of national security, to one of ‘public private partnership’ where the government grants limited access to these materials to a selected group of cleared scientists and companies—quite likely only American-based— in the spirit of (for-profit) collaboration that is so characteristic of the Silicon Valley where he lives and works. This is the basis behind the Sol Foundation that he co-founded in 2023 alongside Peter Skafish and UFO whistleblower David Grusch, who is incidentally no longer a part of it—Garry casually mentioned to Rogan that Sol’s next conference will be held in Italy, of all places, and one wonders if this was suggested by Grusch’s adherence to the highly controversial story of a crashed disk retrieved during the time of Mussolini, in 1933.

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