Whitehat Hackers: Interview with Gideon Part 1 of 5
Interview with Gideon
Below are questions and responses shared on Telegram between Bill Sweet and Gideon over the past year.
*These questions and answers were compiled and edited from messages sent between January thru June of 2022. The USDR discussed below has nothing to do with any existing USDR tokens; SDR and XDR terms were also seen within documentation by the hackers. Please see this disclaimer we have posted about cryptocurrency.
Bill: Who are you and why do you call yourself ‘Gideon’?
Gideon: “My background is in counter-espionage and logistical operations. There’s no way I would disclose much beyond that. I go by Gideon so you have something to call me, and it’s a name from the Bible that carries with it a special meaning for me.”
Bill: Who are the hackers?
Gideon: “They’re IT professionals hired by European governments to conduct stress-tests of government servers and software. It’s known as white hat hacking. We call them white hat hackers. I call them my guys. They’re good hackers hired to stop bad hackers and make sure software is secure before it’s released.”
Bill: How did you get in contact with them? Or how or why did they contact you?
Gideon: “A friend introduced us. No need for me to say more. Protecting them is my absolute number one priority over everything else.”
Bill: Fair enough. So, right now, do you feel you and your sources are safe? There’s no leaks? They haven’t figured you out yet?”
Gideon: “They haven’t put it together. They probably won’t for now. What they’ll do when all this comes out is ignore it, and if it gets to a certain amount of views or interactions, they’ll escalate it and have their agents attack it. Then if it gets too big, it will reach some higher levels and that’s when they’ll take notice.
Everything else we think is air-tight. Not a single shred of critical communication has ever gone out of our closed, encrypted loop. There’s hundreds of white hat hackers working on this system all around the world. Without any proof, they won’t be able to pinpoint who the leakers are, unless they want to interrogate or fire them all. They don’t have time for that. They’re fast-tracking this.“
Bill: What does the CSRQ software do? Why is it so important?
Gideon: “It’s a software suite that will transition all financial transactions from the current SWIFT banking system into a new blockchain-based system. This is expected to take place over a 3 to 5 day period in the future when it comes online. It will also bring with it a very robust social credit and tracking system.
Bill: I’ve seen some screenshots you showed me. Is that the real software? Can you explain more about it?
Gideon: “That’s the real thing. They call it an app. It runs on mobile and desktop. It’s designed as a back-end, web-based user interface that government officials and bankers can use. It’s still being developed so we’ve seen a few different generations so far, one week they add something, the next week they remove it. The colour scheme has changed twice so far, so they are busy refining the user interface. Overall its functionality is straight-forward.
It’s very much like a bank app you use when you login to your bank, plus the social credit aspect, except it’s a back-end app not for public use. The public will end up with something similar, they’re going to release an app for the public, too, and also every bank will update their own apps to reflect all these new changes. The public name won’t be CSRQ-SM.
The main interface has all the information and it’s accessible from it. We can load up profiles, see people’s class status, restrictions, fines, credits, everything.”
Bill: Interesting. Are the white hat hackers still accessing the software?
Gideon: “Yes. They are able to log into the software everyday because that’s part of their job and contract.“
Bill: I’ve heard people will only get $1,000 per month, is this true?
Gideon: “It will be an amount like that. Your bank account cannot exceed this amount at any time. Wages, generally speaking, will no longer exist, and could not exceed $1,000 per month regardless. There will be no cash, so no underground or under the table economy, no bartering allowed.
Right now, they are doing testing and updates, and tinkering with all of it, so there might be some changes when it finally goes online. But it’s clear to all of us, they are going to set it at a low amount most people can barely live on, and take everything else or put a limit or cap on what you can have.
One thing you will also see are high profile people and celebrities start talking about UBI or universal basic income. I’ve already seen a little chatter about this, expect more as we get closer. These are talking points they were given to normalize this idea. Of course, some cities are openly testing this, like Los Angeles. It’s part of a pilot program all related to this.”
Bill: So everyone will get free money. Will they still have to work?
Gideon: “People will still be required to work and will be expected to attend to their jobs as normal. New jobs and roles will also be centrally issued by the government. If you’re a lawyer, you will work. If you’re a housekeeper, you will work.
Failure to work, failure to adhere to new social credit guidelines, and any kind of protest or criticism, will result in immediate demerits, fines or deductions from your account, ranging from $5 to $800, depending on the offence. It’s all in this software, we can see it.
There’s also a ton of documentation my guys have found. Documentation just going over testing and details of how the system works. Simulations showed in the first month, many people would drain their accounts to nearly zero due to ‘bad behaviour’ but by the second month, their behaviour radically adjusted to the point they received virtually no demerits or deductions. In other words, people shaped up and got with the program. They will learn quick that compliance means food in your belly.
Non-compliance means pain. No money, no friends, and you end up stuck in a queue of red tape for all of your violations and having to jump through hoops to undo them, or worse, you just end up in one of their special ‘camps’ for re-educating you. Yes, they really are planning on those.”
Bill: Is this amount going to be universal for every country?
Gideon: “We don’t know for sure. My guys are working on an app that is being deployed in the U.S., Canada, most of Europe, Australia and New Zealand. Everything is in English. There are other teams that work on separate versions for dozens of other languages, so we have speculated the monthly stipend amounts may be different.
Based on documentation we have recovered, there is a long-term vision to bring the world under one system, one currency, and presumably, one monthly stipend amount, which looks like will be around $1,000, but it might take them a few years to balance everything worldwide. We think it’s possible this system will benefit the 3rd world countries to some extent, while causing financial devastation in 1st world countries. In any case, it won’t matter where you live, you will be enslaved.“
Bill: What are some of the other restrictions for these lower classes? You’re telling me if you own property, they will take it?
Gideon: “There’s no question they will. It is a massive wealth-redistribution plan, except it doesn’t actually take any wealth from the super-rich, it just makes them richer. It’s a middle-class destroyer. It’s an upper-middle-class destroyer. It will put everyone on a low-level playing field, where you have to behave so you can get a few extra crumbs each month.
None of what I’m telling you is my opinion, Bill. This is directly from the white hat hackers. This is from documentation they’ve reviewed, that they were required to review. When they started this job, they had to attend in-person and, I guess, you’d call them Skype calls or something, where the whole program and system was given a thorough overview, so they were fully briefed.
They want to adjust people’s behavioural patterns, so you’re tightly controlled, monitored, and they get to pass out small rewards and freedoms for good behaviour. They also think this is workable since China has proven it can work with 1 Billion people, and since they are reducing the Earth’s population drastically with the vaccines, they are looking at a smaller population that they they can manage.”
Bill: Are all wealthy people going to be classified under the Sovereign designation?
Gideon: “Based on what we know, most of those with a net worth under $10 Million and income per year under $2.5 Million will have to adhere to the new rules. They will be re-classified under the Class C designation. Their funds and private property will be seized and redistributed.
You have to realize something, there’s only about 7 or 8 Million people in the whole world who are Class S or Sovereign. This will include government officials, media figures, the super-rich and celebrities. Spread that out, it’s a very small number, and a ton of people most of us would think of as ‘rich’ will be removed and placed in the Class C category. We think that’s because a lot of rich people are just normal, successful people, and not part of this cabal. They will suffer like the rest of us, if they aren’t Class S.
We also see evidence of large capital in-flows going into Class S accounts. Almost all of these inflows are in cryptocurrency, but we also see bank wires and other instruments being transferred, too, it was just surprising how much crypto was being used. It seems it’s just an efficient method for them or something.
The conversion is offered at an extremely favourable rate of 1:43 at this time, and seems to vary around that number, goes up and down day to day. We speculate this is the method being used by the world’s rich and elites to transfer their wealth to USDR, quietly and without detection. There’s tons of wealthy people sitting around with stocks, gold, silver, bonds, crypto who have no idea this is going on. They are going to be in for the shock of their lives when it’s all seized and erased. If you’re not Class S, you’re done.”
Bill: Is XRP being used by this new system? Won’t it be worth a lot more?
Gideon: “Based on what we know, all cryptocurrencies, including XRP, will be worthless after the transition. How can you trade crypto when there is only one tightly controlled currency, the USDR, and trading it isn’t allowed? You can’t. They’re going to just suffocate crypto out of existence, and if that doesn’t completely work, they will issue straight up bans, too.
I personally think Tether will be exposed as insolvent, at a planned, certain point in the future, and this will precipitate a major crypto collapse along with everything else.
If you have XRP, you would want to get it into USDR. That’s what we are seeing everyday in this software, all these in-flows. But the average person has no clue, they think XRP is an investment for the future. Little do they know! Now that doesn’t mean Ripple technology won’t be used, it looks to us it will be, but that’s separate from the idea of XRP as an investment vehicle. It’s not. It’s a wealth transfer vehicle for Class S accounts into USDR, that’s all it is.”
Bill: But you said they are using Bitcoin, too. Will it still exist?
Gideon: “No. No crypto won’t exist or be traded once this goes online, unless they create some kind of separate capital market. Which is possible! But unless you are a Class S account, you won’t be able to trade it to begin with. It’s irrelevant to even speculate about it. If you are not Sovereign class, no trading asset matters, because you won’t be able to even touch it.
If you’re not Sovereign you literally cannot have more than probably $1,500 in total net worth, which is your bank account and the money they give you and some basic things you own. You cannot own a house, property or a car. Everything will be lent, rented. There won’t be normal financing, but there will be a type of financing connected to your social score and good behaviour. People will accumulate debt this way, and some assets, but it will be limited. From what we can see, you won’t be able to acquire much more than a few thousand in assets.
Everything is going to be seized by the state and private companies that are going to be marketed as conservators, trustees and charities of the public fund and trust. This will be complete nonsense, but it will be sold as a wealth-distribution model to make everything more ‘fair’ for mankind. I expect many people of the centrist and liberal political leaning will fall for this trap and support it, even if some of their own property is taken from them! They will drape all of this in a ‘good for the Earth’ mantra as well.”
Bill: Ok, but I still don’t see how will people accept this. Won’t there be riots and revolt?
Gideon: “Bill, you have to remember this isn’t coming online right now. It’s not coming online during relatively good times or even recession times. It’s going to come online when they’ve put the whole world into a collapse, which is what they’re doing right now, little by little. All you have to do is open your eyes to see all of the idiotic things they are doing to destroy the economy!
Once the world is in a severe economic depression, the system will be brought online and is expected to be accepted by the majority. It will be seen as a ‘relief plan’ and widely praised by the media. CEOs and top so-called capitalists, who are all secretly in favour of this communist-style plan, they’ll praise it. Just like they praised the vaccine, they’ll praise this, and people will say, ‘Oh, the TV and government says this is good, so it must be good.’
I’ve said this over and over, the rich actually get much richer with this plan they have. It’s audacious. They’ll actually sell it as the opposite, a redistribution of wealth for the ‘little guy’ when it’s not that. A lot of people will buy into that propaganda, though, they’ll see it as relief from the economic pain and ‘free money’ and so on.
They’ll also relish seeing their rich friends all on the same level playing field as them! Remember, a ton of rich people will be set at Class C and have all of their wealth seized. It’s an incredible slight of hand they’re going to pull off, convincing everyone this is a better and more fair system when it’s the opposite.
The poor and lower classes, even middle classes, watching the upper middle class and lower level rich people all get reduced to their level is a big selling point, a big part of the propaganda! Don’t discount how powerful that will be! The masses will relish watching this unfold, and see it as this new, fair system of wealth redistribution, which it’s not at all.
They’re also going to have a couple of token super rich people take a bad fall and get re-classed as Class C, or Common. This will be on the news, these guys will be trotted out, some of the men crying, being removed from their mansions. All of them will be White men. While this goes on, the public won’t bother to question why it didn’t happen to other rich people or celebrities. It doesn’t matter! The Covid operation proved the public will believe anything they are presented with, anything.
We also think some celebrities will pretend they are class C or Common, we think they will do TV shows about it. It will be this big thing. But they will just straight up lie, they won’t really be Common.
The biggest opposition they expect is from the patriot groups and the upper middle class and higher income groups. They’ve done psych profiles, A.I. simulations, all that for years and years, they have it all nailed down to a science. They know who will react, how, when, where, and how to respond to it. Their biggest worry are the preppers with guns, of course, but I’ve seen how they plan to deal with them and those people will pose almost zero threat to this plan going through.“
Bill: Let’s get back to this change over. How is it even possible to implement this? Logistically, it seems impossible. You’re talking about a literal reset of everything we know.
Gideon: “Many things have happened in recent history that would seem fantastical or surreal, if told to someone in the past. This plan seems completely insane, untenable, it is literally a total reset, but you have to remember they’ve spent decades tinkering and planning this, decades. The extent of time and planning is stunning to me. It’s the culmination of something, something that’s been in the works for one hundred years.
We are entering a new period of time, where economic freedom will become a rare luxury under the so-called ‘Great Reset’ being planned. Much of this is based on Marxist, Leninist and Communist policies, which are secretly held by the world’s elite. They have all agreed Capitalism ‘must go’ because it provides the common person with too much freedom, collapse is imminent anyway, and that a new system must be implemented. They intend to accomplish it.”
Bill: What is your goal?
Gideon: “I have multiple goals, Bill. I want to expose what they are doing to the world, for one thing. We don’t have much time to do that. I’m also looking at the feasibility of whether we can delete the data of a lot of good people in there and get them into the Sovereign class. I’m looking at what happens after this change over, which I feel is inevitable, what can we do to break it from the inside once it’s online.”
Bill: Have you been able to use the software to change your own social profile?
Gideon: “Yes. I’m Sovereign now. Before this, I was Common, despite my years of service to the country. That shocked me and pissed me off, by the way, but I’m thankful they were able to change me over.
The profiles can be changed. My guys have a type of administrative power for their jobs where they can completely delete or change a person’s social media data and voting data. That means if the system sees you as some kind of threat, a person of ‘interest’ or part of an undesirable political alignment, we can just erase that or change it. We can adjust some parameters, for example, to make it seem like you have a Democrat voting history, not a Republican one. From this point, it’s easy to re-class someone as Sovereign.“
Bill: What else can be changed within the social credit system when you change your class?
Gideon: “A wide variety of conditions can be changed, for those who are ‘exempt’ or Class S. Check boxes and menus seem to include many options, such as free memberships to spas or golf clubs, allotted vacations, expensive cars and vouchers that give one access to high quality food. These privileges are only available for Sovereign accounts.“
Bill: What do they plan to do with the food system?
Gideon: “It will be dramatically changed, and transitioned. Meats from cows and poultry will be banned, except for those who are exempt, those who are Sovereign. New farms are being built for crickets, maggots and other types of bugs that will be harvested for the masses. These protein sources will be re-formed into familiar types of foods, but will not look or taste the same.
Oh, by the way, there are huge bug farms being built now, some above-ground, many below-ground. Elon Musk’s tunnel boring company is doing some of this. None of that is on the news. It might come out later. They are doing a slow trickle. All this stuff is slowly coming out. Paying attention? I hope so. Some of the articles today would look like satire or science fiction ten years ago. So they are letting people know about the bug factories, but not how many bug factories they’ve really built and are building.
Those who refuse to eat, who resist or complain about the new types of foods will have their accounts quickly drained due to deductions and demerits.
In the documents my guys saw, it was shown they have plans for a certain percentage of people who will voluntarily starve themselves, and the clean-up operations needed to remove their bodies. The documents stated that around 1-2% of the population may choose starvation over compliance, and this was regarded as a positive outcome. So they think it’s a positive thing people will starve themselves. These people are demons in human form.”
Bill: Are you going to open this to the public so more people can have their social profiles changed?
Gideon: “It’s not up to me. It’s up to my guys who have access. I talked to them about it briefly and they seemed open to it, but the changes can’t be done on a mass scale. They have to be done individually and carefully. It’s risky for them to do it.”
Bill: Will there be any other way to change a social credit score, or change an account?
Gideon: “We don’t think there is any other way, other than using the back-end CSRQ software. I don’t see how you could do it otherwise.“
Bill: What if these so-called elites find out about you, will they come after you?
Gideon: “I’ve been doing this a long time. I know where we’re at. We’re low-priority right now. For one thing, we have security safeguards in place that make it impossible for them to track our encrypted messages and communications, let alone actually read them. It is literally bulletproof. The NSA could not crack into it.
And my guys have been able to successfully change accounts from Class C to Class S and transfer funds without any issue. The reason for this is because it is part of their job, so when they make these changes, the system does not see it as unusual. But they did tell me, they think an alert would go off if they did some kind of mass edit of thousands or tens of thousands of accounts, so they’re not going to attempt that. Doing a few accounts randomly here and there is no problem.
They also told me a lot of changes need to be made to a ton of accounts manually. We’re talking Billions of accounts, of course, it’s the human population of the planet. The system has errors and people not classified correctly. So when they are doing these changes, it looks ‘normal’ to the system itself.
We plan to continue to utilize this opportunity, and we will do anything to protect our operations at all costs. That means I’m not going to show my face or say who I am, and I’m going to help you guys be careful and not screw up, either. You’re going to get hit with some attacks from their paid agents, so I’ll get you ready for that. You might see some accounts get deleted, so we’ll need back ups. We’ll need other groups to help us. All of that. We can’t do it alone, it’s not enough firepower.
We need a lot of people all coordinating to get this out there, so they can’t instantly nuke it. We also have to put some red herrings out, too. For example, maybe I’ll come out and say I think JFK Jr. is alive and going to be president. See what I did there? I said something wild, now everything else I said looks suspect or doubtful. And who knows, maybe he is alive! I hope so!
These are cointelpro techniques. Goes way over the head of the average person. It’s necessary sometimes. We’ll see how that plays out, if we will need to do that or not. Some of the lower level agents who monitor this stuff are morons, so I can manipulate them, but if it gets escalated to higher departments, then we will have a war on our hands.”
Bill: When do you want to go public with this?
Gideon: “Once we get our ducks in order. I’m sending you a list of things you need to do to get ready. There isn’t a lot of time. We have maybe this year, maybe six months. You need to follow my instructions perfectly, by the way. No room for error. If I ask you to do something strange, just do it, I will have my reasons.”
Bill: It’s fine, I want to help however I can. Do your guys think they can damage the system now, since they are working on it? Maybe put in a virus or something?
Gideon: “That’s a good question. Yes, we talked about that extensively, and it’s not really possible. Well, I shouldn’t say that. It is possible, but high risk with a low probability of working.
The system has robust anti-virus and anti-malware redundancies in place. They could infect parts of it, but it would be closed off quickly, somewhat like an airlock on the space station. A fire happens, it closes itself off so the rest of the station is protected. My guys concluded, yes, they could do some damage, but not enough, and very likely get caught.
We concluded it’s better they just use what the system is already allowing them to do, and expects them to do, to our advantage.”
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