Why do people see elves when they take DMT?
What entities might reveal about memory, mind, and nature, with philosopher Peter Sjöstedt-Hughes
The reports are remarkably consistent: travellers on DMT describe meeting entities, beings, intelligences that seem to greet them, instruct them, even expect them, something I often discussed with Terence McKenna (as in trialogue 13). It’s a question philosopher of mind and metaphysics Peter Sjöstedt-Hughes is well placed to probe. His work centres on panpsychism and the philosophy of psychedelic experience, and he takes such reports neither as gospel nor as nonsense, but as data worth thinking about carefully.
In this clip we turn to those DMT entities directly. Are these visions purely private hallucinations, manufactured by the brain, or might they be glimpses of something more collective, a shared memory within nature of the kind I’ve explored through morphic resonance? Peter and I take the question seriously without pretending to settle it, and the conversation moves from the pharmacology of these states to what they might imply about the reach of mind beyond the individual skull.
It’s a small excerpt from a much longer and wide-ranging exchange about consciousness, memory, and where the edges of the mind really lie. With a free iai trial, you can watch the full conversation.
From the talk…
I got interested in this question in relation to dreams. Psychedelic experiences a few people have had, most people haven't, but everyone's had dreams, and in our dreams we enter a realm where all sorts of improbable things happen... So I thought, what about Ganesh in India, the elephant-headed god? He couldn't possibly have existed in the normal sense of the word, unless there were elephant-head transplants. He's a cultural image: on calendars, in statues, in temples, in people's houses. Almost all Hindus see Ganesh images all their lives. So I asked: does Ganesh appear in dreams? I went online and found Ganesh dream discussion groups, Indians discussing their Ganesh dreams. He's obviously more than a personal hallucination, because he's a collective phenomenon... Maybe he's a manifestation of a deeper principle that works through this image in people's dreams. Then it wouldn't just be a fancy hallucination in a particular person's mind.
The discussion took place in April 2022 at HowTheLightGetsIn, the IAI’s philosophy and music festival, which gathers scientists, philosophers and artists for exactly this sort of open-ended enquiry, the kind of setting where questions that polite science prefers to ignore can at last be asked aloud.

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